Comments on: Outline http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/ Providing a permanent record of Australian bands, musicians, recordings and technical crew no matter what the musical genre, both current and past. Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:18:00 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Phil Rigger http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/comment-page-1/#comment-3874 Phil Rigger Sun, 23 May 2010 13:12:17 +0000 http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/#comment-3874 Hi Guys, Once again, it's so nice to hear that Outline created so many great memories for so many people. It makes me very proud to think that we were able to make a difference with people.....to entertain and to say something real, with a liberal dose of humour is what we always tried to do. To Nic, regarding the recording you found....I'd be really interested in getting a transfer of that to CD if possible. I have a cassette of that session I think, but to have it transferred from 1/4' would be great. The lineup as stated is as it was at the time of the session. John on guitar and vocals, myself on vocals and trumpet, Jeff Barrett on bass, Alex on Keys and Bob Oliver on drums. I think Harry mentioned in an earlier post that we had Mark Azzopardi, but Mark left the band and we had to get another drummer pretty quickly as we had quite a few gigs booked. I had met Bob when I was playing in an earlier band I was in called Skintight. We were a 9 piece funk band during the 70's. Another band we did a number of gigs with was Dalvanius and the Fascinations. They were essentially a vocal group (Dalvanius and 2 pr 3 harmony singers- the Fascinations) The had a very funky, hot band and Bob Oliver, an American was the drummer. When Outline needed a drummer I had his number and lo and behold he was free at the time. Bob came over to rehearse with us. He picked the songs up really quickly and away we went....it was fantastic. Of course, we had a discussion with him and we weren't the style of band he wanted to play with permanently, as we were rocking a bit more and funkin' a little less, but he agreed to stay until we found and rehearsed a new drummer, so Bob stayed with us for about 3 months. He was fantastic and did that recording. I heard years later he ended up as the drummer in the house band at the Wrest Point Casino in Hobart..... If you ever see this Bob, or anyone knows Bob, please pass on my kindest regards and ask him to drop me a line. The guy Harry mentions as having made an original video for Cicada was Groove Myers. Groove was an artist and raconteur who had a great place called The Milk Bar in Surry Hills.....it was an old coner store milk bar. The roof opened up and he had a wonderful large telescope with which to stargaze.....a great guy. That version of Cicada was produced by Phil Punch (his brother is Mark Punch, noted guitarist). To this day Phil was one of the nicest, talented people I've ever worked with. Funny thing, after having made that recording all those years ago, our paths never crossed again, so if you ever read this Phil, a belated thanks for being a hugely talented, great guy. Anyway, once again I'm o glad people enjoyed Outline. Anymore stories similar to the Cicadas footy team wouldn't go astray either.......well done The Cicadas.....I hope you won a few Grand Finals......Cheers, everyone....PS my email is phil.rigger@gmail.com Hi Guys,
Once again, it’s so nice to hear that Outline created so many great memories for so many people. It makes me very proud to think that we were able to make a difference with people…..to entertain and to say something real, with a liberal dose of humour is what we always tried to do. To Nic, regarding the recording you found….I’d be really interested in getting a transfer of that to CD if possible. I have a cassette of that session I think, but to have it transferred from 1/4′ would be great. The lineup as stated is as it was at the time of the session. John on guitar and vocals, myself on vocals and trumpet, Jeff Barrett on bass, Alex on Keys and Bob Oliver on drums. I think Harry mentioned in an earlier post that we had Mark Azzopardi, but Mark left the band and we had to get another drummer pretty quickly as we had quite a few gigs booked. I had met Bob when I was playing in an earlier band I was in called Skintight. We were a 9 piece funk band during the 70′s. Another band we did a number of gigs with was Dalvanius and the Fascinations. They were essentially a vocal group (Dalvanius and 2 pr 3 harmony singers- the Fascinations) The had a very funky, hot band and Bob Oliver, an American was the drummer. When Outline needed a drummer I had his number and lo and behold he was free at the time. Bob came over to rehearse with us. He picked the songs up really quickly and away we went….it was fantastic. Of course, we had a discussion with him and we weren’t the style of band he wanted to play with permanently, as we were rocking a bit more and funkin’ a little less, but he agreed to stay until we found and rehearsed a new drummer, so Bob stayed with us for about 3 months. He was fantastic and did that recording. I heard years later he ended up as the drummer in the house band at the Wrest Point Casino in Hobart….. If you ever see this Bob, or anyone knows Bob, please pass on my kindest regards and ask him to drop me a line. The guy Harry mentions as having made an original video for Cicada was Groove Myers. Groove was an artist and raconteur who had a great place called The Milk Bar in Surry Hills…..it was an old coner store milk bar. The roof opened up and he had a wonderful large telescope with which to stargaze…..a great guy. That version of Cicada was produced by Phil Punch (his brother is Mark Punch, noted guitarist). To this day Phil was one of the nicest, talented people I’ve ever worked with. Funny thing, after having made that recording all those years ago, our paths never crossed again, so if you ever read this Phil, a belated thanks for being a hugely talented, great guy. Anyway, once again I’m o glad people enjoyed Outline. Anymore stories similar to the Cicadas footy team wouldn’t go astray either…….well done The Cicadas…..I hope you won a few Grand Finals……Cheers, everyone….PS my email is phil.rigger@gmail.com

]]> By: Harry Ladomatos http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/comment-page-1/#comment-3786 Harry Ladomatos Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:45:12 +0000 http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/#comment-3786 Hi Nic, I was the bass player with Outline in their first year and I remember being on this recording session. The demo you refer to was probably recorded around September 1979. Can't remember who was drumming, maybe Mark Azzopardi. John played bass on Security Set because I couldn't get the feel he wanted. I don't think John (Harpo) Marks played drums on this because he had left the band along with Jenny Watson (our vocalist) some time before this. I remember the producer got John and Alex to play solos over the whole recording and then used parts of these on the final mix. I thought that was really cool. We also shot a video for Cicada at some old construction site with the guy who produced this recording. I can't recall the producers name but he had a place in Surry Hills with an attic that had a telescope in it for looking at the stars. He was taken by Outlines quirky sound and attitude to music. He was a cool quirky guy himself with that sort of new age outlook of that time. These recording were pressed as a 4 track 33rpm LP which I had a copy of but have since lost. Steve Zagami our sound guy had given it to me when I saw him the following year after I had left. I'm sure Phil Rigger would be very interested in hearing these tapes if that was possible Nic. Phil runs a very nice studio down at Rozelle called Monstereo. Phil would also be able to shed more light on the details of this demo recording. Nic, Outline did a live to air recording on Double Jay (or was that Triple?) as part of the prize for winning a band competition either just before or just after Christmas 1978. If you found that it would be really cool. It was done at the studio up in Darlinghurst. We also did a recording session there. I remember the engineer/producer guy thought that our songs were too complex. We were right into Gentle Giant at this time so there were these quirky odd meter hard to play things that John Sammers liked writing. regards Harry Ladomatos Hi Nic,
I was the bass player with Outline in their first year and I remember being on this recording session. The demo you refer to was probably recorded around September 1979. Can’t remember who was drumming, maybe Mark Azzopardi. John played bass on Security Set because I couldn’t get the feel he wanted. I don’t think John (Harpo) Marks played drums on this because he had left the band along with Jenny Watson (our vocalist) some time before this. I remember the producer got John and Alex to play solos over the whole recording and then used parts of these on the final mix. I thought that was really cool.
We also shot a video for Cicada at some old construction site with the guy who produced this recording. I can’t recall the producers name but he had a place in Surry Hills with an attic that had a telescope in it for looking at the stars. He was taken by Outlines quirky sound and attitude to music. He was a cool quirky guy himself with that sort of new age outlook of that time.
These recording were pressed as a 4 track 33rpm LP which I had a copy of but have since lost. Steve Zagami our sound guy had given it to me when I saw him the following year after I had left.

I’m sure Phil Rigger would be very interested in hearing these tapes if that was possible Nic. Phil runs a very nice studio down at Rozelle called Monstereo. Phil would also be able to shed more light on the details of this demo recording.

Nic, Outline did a live to air recording on Double Jay (or was that Triple?) as part of the prize for winning a band competition either just before or just after Christmas 1978. If you found that it would be really cool. It was done at the studio up in Darlinghurst. We also did a recording session there. I remember the engineer/producer guy thought that our songs were too complex. We were right into Gentle Giant at this time so there were these quirky odd meter hard to play things that John Sammers liked writing.
regards
Harry Ladomatos

]]> By: Nic http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/comment-page-1/#comment-3769 Nic Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:59:35 +0000 http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/#comment-3769 I work in the ABC archives and came across this tape (1/4" 71/2 ips. Outline (demo) Master: Date of broadcast unknown. Circa mid 1970's. Outline is: John Sammers - guitar, vocals. Phil Rigger - trumpet, effects, vocals. Alex Lacesev - keyboards, vocals. Bob Oliver - drums. Jeff Barrett - bass. 1. The Cicada That 8 Five Dock 2. Security Set 3. I'm In Love 4. Lost For Words; Recorded at Honeyfarm. Does anyone know when this was done? The box says Circa mid 1970's. But I assume it's later. And I notice the drummer isn't in the list above. I work in the ABC archives and came across this tape (1/4″ 71/2 ips.

Outline (demo)
Master: Date of broadcast unknown. Circa mid 1970′s. Outline is: John Sammers – guitar, vocals. Phil Rigger – trumpet, effects, vocals. Alex Lacesev – keyboards, vocals. Bob Oliver – drums. Jeff Barrett – bass. 1. The Cicada That 8 Five Dock 2. Security Set 3. I’m In Love 4. Lost For Words; Recorded at Honeyfarm.

Does anyone know when this was done? The box says Circa mid 1970′s. But I assume it’s later. And I notice the drummer isn’t in the list above.

]]> By: net http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/comment-page-1/#comment-3740 net Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:18:36 +0000 http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/#comment-3740 i've just stumbled across this site. oh...what a blast from the past! wished johnno had put a bit of info in. good reading from phil. i loved that band. what a damn shame they didn't make it. i know that we thought they should have. hope you're all enjoying life guys. luv the memories x i’ve just stumbled across this site. oh…what a blast from the past! wished johnno had put a bit of info in. good reading from phil. i loved that band. what a damn shame they didn’t make it. i know that we thought they should have. hope you’re all enjoying life guys. luv the memories x

]]> By: Sean Aylmer http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/comment-page-1/#comment-3564 Sean Aylmer Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:08:28 +0000 http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/#comment-3564 Great website this - I play in a touch football team called Cicadas on Grass. We began in about 1984 as the Cicadas, and played basketball, before moving to touch footy (hence the "on grass"). We are unashamedly proud followers on the Outline song and every game we play we eee eee eee eee eee as much of possible. We are having a 25 year reunion this year, inviting as many former Cicadas as possible (in the hundreds). Anyone know where we can get a copy of the song (I'd prefer a record if possible - not really an iTunes man). Full thanks to Outline for providing 25 years if sore throats Great website this – I play in a touch football team called Cicadas on Grass. We began in about 1984 as the Cicadas, and played basketball, before moving to touch footy (hence the “on grass”). We are unashamedly proud followers on the Outline song and every game we play we eee eee eee eee eee as much of possible.
We are having a 25 year reunion this year, inviting as many former Cicadas as possible (in the hundreds). Anyone know where we can get a copy of the song (I’d prefer a record if possible – not really an iTunes man). Full thanks to Outline for providing 25 years if sore throats

]]> By: Wal http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/comment-page-1/#comment-3477 Wal Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:33:53 +0000 http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/#comment-3477 Great songs! Where can I purchase the Outline Album -Maybe its a Game? Great songs!

Where can I purchase the Outline Album -Maybe its a Game?

]]> By: Peter Germann http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/comment-page-1/#comment-3017 Peter Germann Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:38:38 +0000 http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/#comment-3017 Hi all Its great to relive the good old days of Aus music. I have in my album collection, The Outline Album -Maybe its a game, (the board game inside)its in great condition, I want to record it onto my computer one day so I can hear it again. Great songs great words, cheers Peter Hi all
Its great to relive the good old days of Aus music.
I have in my album collection, The Outline Album -Maybe its a game, (the board game inside)its in great condition, I want to record it onto my computer one day so I can hear it again. Great songs great words, cheers Peter

]]> By: Luke http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/comment-page-1/#comment-2723 Luke Sun, 31 May 2009 00:47:24 +0000 http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/#comment-2723 I used to watch Outline nearly every Sat night at the pickled parrot....such good times... and great songs....cities....cicada...sex aids...are you a consumer, Wish I had a way to listen to them again.... I heard when they first started that the line up was bigger with people actually acting out the songs on stage but I can't confirm that...maybe just an urban myth... I also heard they had trouble with record companies cause they sounded too much like Misex.(surely not...surely) anyway they were great times and if they ever reformed i'd be there in a heartbeat...Why not...The Radiators are performing 30 year anniversary shows I read.... and imo Outline towers above them I used to watch Outline nearly every Sat night at the pickled parrot….such good times… and great songs….cities….cicada…sex aids…are you a consumer, Wish I had a way to listen to them again…. I heard when they first started that the line up was bigger with people actually acting out the songs on stage but I can’t confirm that…maybe just an urban myth… I also heard they had trouble with record companies cause they sounded too much like Misex.(surely not…surely)
anyway they were great times and if they ever reformed i’d be there in a heartbeat…Why not…The Radiators are performing 30 year anniversary shows I read…. and imo Outline towers above them

]]> By: Jon Carter http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/comment-page-1/#comment-2714 Jon Carter Sun, 24 May 2009 09:12:09 +0000 http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/#comment-2714 Yes..one of my fave bands too... We used to go to the Vicar of Wakefield every weekend for a dose of AUSSIE ROCK.. Outline.. The Eyes.. Damaged Goods.. Radiators... The Numbers.. D. Minor & The Discords... + yer Mentals & INXS's ...and others whose names will prob come back as soon as I hit Enter... The Outliners were a friendly bunch and I always got in the ear of Phil or John about bands etc (our band at the time; New Line Road played its first gig at the Vic).. I remember an epic tune which they used to do in the earlier days......... a history of music in 10 minutes... very funny.. I have some excellent pix of the band at The Vicar ..I shall find them!! ..and yes I still have every record they released...including the 12" EP.. and yes I do play them from time to time..Thank you Outline for some great musical moments!!...PS I have just been reminded that after an Outline gig @ The Bayview Tavern we found a little kitten which we took home and named....Outline... Yes..one of my fave bands too… We used to go to the Vicar of Wakefield every weekend for a dose of AUSSIE ROCK.. Outline.. The Eyes.. Damaged Goods.. Radiators… The Numbers.. D. Minor & The Discords… + yer Mentals & INXS’s …and others whose names will prob come back as soon as I hit Enter… The Outliners were a friendly bunch and I always got in the ear of Phil or John about bands etc (our band at the time; New Line Road played its first gig at the Vic).. I remember an epic tune which they used to do in the earlier days……… a history of music in 10 minutes… very funny.. I have some excellent pix of the band at The Vicar ..I shall find them!! ..and yes I still have every record they released…including the 12″ EP.. and yes I do play them from time to time..Thank you Outline for some great musical moments!!…PS I have just been reminded that after an Outline gig @ The Bayview Tavern we found a little kitten which we took home and named….Outline…

]]> By: Free Willy http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/comment-page-1/#comment-2696 Free Willy Sun, 17 May 2009 08:20:34 +0000 http://www.australianmusichistory.com/outline/#comment-2696 Hey Nathan does your Dad remember supporting The Angels at the Hordern Pavillion either late 70s or early 80s. I remember the Cicada song eee, eee, eee. Hey Nathan does your Dad remember supporting The Angels at the Hordern Pavillion either late 70s or early 80s. I remember the Cicada song eee, eee, eee.

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